AshleyBlack
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Dabei seit: 04.09.2004
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I had a little bit English in the Kindergarten (it also calls so in England and America - really, if don't know that) and I had a subscription to an English course in the third and fourth class. Every month I got a notebook and a cassette - sometimes there was also a CD-Rom. Then, in the fifth, I began to learn English. Now I'm in the ninth class of a secondary school. English is great!!!! Last Year I began to leran french, but it's more complicate than english. In my opinion, english is better than french (or german 
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I also have mistakes at school, I'm not perfect in english. 
I read the Harry Potter Books in german so often and then I read the second and third in english. Now, I'm trying to get the fifth.
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08.10.2004 18:27 |
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Mad-Eye Dobby
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Hello @ all
I'd just want to say hello..
I'm sorry if I can't write in English very well, but at school I've got English just one year ago. (I live in Switzerland)
I've got book 5 in English and it's better than the German version.
Greetings
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16.10.2004 17:02 |
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Emma W.
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Hey I think this corner is great.
I would say that I love to read the HP-books in english
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02.11.2004 17:17 |
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ChingChuan
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Hi everyone,
it's an English thread, so of course I'm here 
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I think my English is far better than my German so I think I'll spend most of my time in this board but I hope I will learn to rely less on English, because talking English to German people I meet is a little stupid if I can talk also German
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But eh well, fahrenheit 9/11 isn't really a Harry Potter thing, is it? (*let's find some Harry Potter things to talk bout
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What do you think about the German or whatever language Harry Potter is translated in, version of the Harry Potter books? Do you think it's translated the right way, or do you think that the english edition is far better than HP in you native language? (this is a HP subject
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I think the German version is quite gut, at least I only read the first part... In one of the last chapters, this line: I like it because I can imagine Harry saying that all in German
. Unfortunately I can't really say whether it's a good translation because I don't know enough of the language
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The Dutch translations are: RUBBISH! They (the publisher) don't give that poor translator enough time to translate Harry Potter, so he messed everything up, confused things with other things, translated things twice etc.
A few examples:
The Department of Mysteries & the office of misinformation: Two entirely different parts of the Ministry of Magic, yet he managed to give the BOTH of them the SAME name: "departement van mystificatie". Mistificatie refers to that "misinformation" while 'departement' refers of course to the 'department of mysteries'. I still can't understand why he messed it up.
Same for the people who work in the departments and offices mentioned above: They are unspeakables and obliviators yet again he gives them the same name: Verbloemisten (which refers to the obliviators).
Is a Stunner a "Lamstraal" or a "Verlamvloek" or a "verstijvingsvloek"? Three names for one curse...
Is Care for Magical Creatures "Zorg for Magische dieren" or "Verzorging voor Fabeldieren?"
And so on...
So I think the english version is better than the Dutch one
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Does anyone else want to give their opinion?
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23.12.2004 22:12 |
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nighmi 
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Dabei seit: 06.06.2004
Alter: 33
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LOL, did they translate one expression in English, with several in dutch?
I think, it is done in the German version, too, but not that much. But the German translator is too stupid to understand English at all. Translating 713 with 719 and "Snap Explodes" with "Snape Explodiert"....
It is changed in the newer versions I think, but that doesn't mean the translator is good.
BTW:
Is Care for Magical Creatures "Zorg for Magische dieren" or "Verzorging voor Fabeldieren?"
I would say [but I don't know of the Dutch language] the first thing is right, because the German "Fabeltier" means that it isn't existing, but in the book it is existing, and you should imagine that the animals exist
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23.12.2004 22:31 |
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Eosphoros
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Dabei seit: 14.04.2004
Herkunft: Von Oben
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Okay let's try it in English.
In my opinion, the translator tried to transfer the word joke into German. You have the same pronouncation <snape> and <snap>. The first one means the man with the name <Snape>, and the other one means the card-game.
You will perceive the joke or the similarity of both.
I'm sure that the German translator wanted to show this similarity thus.
Everytime translation is interpretation. So you don't read the author's version you read the translator's or interpretator's version.
(I hate grammar!)
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06.01.2005 18:04 |
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Thiuri
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It's "Exploding snap" in the original, not "Snap explodes", isn't it?
The translation "Snape explodiert" is complete rubbish, of course, but somehow the idea is quite nice, I think. The Gryffindors let their most hated teacher explode, if only in a game.
Anyway, the game is translated correctly in "Orden des Phönix", it is "explodierende Mau-Mau Karten".
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08.01.2005 19:02 |
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Alicia Spinnet
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@ ChingChuan
Well, I haven't read the Dutch version 
so I can't say anything about it but in my opinion the English version is much better than the German one.
And that isn't because of the "mistakes" the translator made. I mean, I'm translating myself and so I know that it's sometimes really hard. So I can understand the translator doesn't translate word by word.
I prefer the English version, though, because I ike to know in which style an author writes. And I also think the characters come across better than in German. But that's simply the curse of the translation. 
As Eosphoros already said you always have tor interprete when you're translating which can be really hard.
Hm, I just realised I didn't read the books in many different languages so I cannot compare them as well as others are able to. My cousin, for example, has read Book V in four different languages: English, German, Spanish and Swedish. 
I once tried to read the first few sentences of the Spanish version but had to admit that I forgot everything I ever learned so I couldn't understand it properly. Just a few words... 
Did you read one/all of the books in another language, other than Dutch, English or German?
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19.01.2005 16:13 |
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HermineG.
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Dabei seit: 13.04.2004
Alter: 36
Herkunft: Aus der Mitte Hessen's
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I also think that the english version is much better. Sometimes it is not easy to translate. And a grate advantage is, that the english book is being published earlier.
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19.01.2005 19:18 |
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Alicia Spinnet
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Absolutely right! 
That's why I'll buy it in English. I just can't wait till the German translation is out, I just have to read this book.
We waited long enough, eh?
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20.01.2005 16:37 |
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green eyed witch
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Yep! I agree,that the English version is better and (especially in the second book) much funnier.A lot of jokes just can't be translated.
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04.02.2005 20:48 |
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ChingChuan
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I also translate, and of course it's impossible to translate word-by-word, but I think the mistakes in the Dutch version are just the results of mixing things up... At least, the most mistakes in the Dutch version are things that are mixed up with each other, or words that have been translated different than before (like: Zorg voor Magische Dieren and Verzorging voor Fabeldieren, it both meanse 'Care for Magical Creatures')...
But I don't think it's entirely the translator's fault, the Dutch publisher only gives the translator about 6 months to translate the book , and I think that's not really much time...
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Did you read one/all of the books in another language, other than Dutch, English or German?[/quote]
I read the Latin and the Greek version, I'm trying the Chinese version (in other words: I have to translate every character and figure out what it exactly means in the sentence) and I have read one sentence in the Japanese Version. I also have an Ukrainian (is that correct? It comes from a land that we call "Oekraïne" in Dutch) but I can't really read that, the letters look quite like greek but I don't understand anything at all
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I collect Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone in different languages, so now you know how I get to read all those languages...
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07.02.2005 10:42 |
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fanny
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hey
first i want to say is that my english is not so good but i hope you can understand me. I never read Harry potter book in english I don´t know why but I have the feeling tht I´m not good enough for it. But I watched Harry Potter and the chamber of secrets in english,not all but a little bit.
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09.02.2005 17:38 |
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HermineG.
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Dabei seit: 13.04.2004
Alter: 36
Herkunft: Aus der Mitte Hessen's
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Hallo
@Fanny
In my opinion you should try and read the books in english.
The first book is easy and the books are not very expensiv.
By the way you know the dutch version so you know what will happen.
Bye
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09.02.2005 18:43 |
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Colin Creevey
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Dabei seit: 12.09.2004
Alter: 34
Herkunft: BaWü
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Yes, the original English books are much better, because "Klaus Fritz" translated the German's really, really bad
!!! Some words, by which Joanne was thinking something translated Klaus totally other than he had to 
!! Like "Exploding Snap" (Snape explodiert 
) or "Dragonblood" (Drachenmilch
) NAd Bloomsbury does print them better on each page is written in which chapter you're
! So all in all there are much pro's for the English books!
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