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Hallo Leute,

ich habe zum erstenmal einen sehr umfassende Artikel zu JKRs christlichen Bekenntnis enteckt.

Sämtliche Aussagen, die sie selbst einmal dazu getroffen hat, werden hier angeführt (mit Quellen) und im Artikel besprochen.

Die Ãbersetzung erfolgt schrittweise.

âJ.K. Rowling, a Christian?â
March 25th, 2007
MagicalEnchantment.com continues to be down for the time being, though perhaps not permanently, Iâm told, by Johnny, the siteâs creator. Johnnyâs a guy who does his research when it comes to Rowling, the HP series, and the Christian connections. Heâs written another excellent piece and given me permission to post it here at SoG. I think, once again, youâll enjoy his work. Given this little interaction between John Granger and a secularist, anti-Christian Potter fan, this work is timely.
When I first started reading the Harry Potter series, the idea that J.K. Rowling (hereafter JKR) was a Christian escaped me. Maybe I was too distracted by the storyline to notice any deeper themes in the first four novels. It wasnât until I was browsing the Literary Theory shelf at a Barnes & Noble that I discovered she was. The book was The Hidden Key to Harry Potter by John Granger. Glancing at the back cover, it laid out Grangerâs thesis that JKR was âironically writing the most charming and challenging Christian fiction for children since Lewisâ Chronicles of Narniaâ. What ultimately made me purchase the book, however, was the following statement on the page opposite the table of contents:
âI believe in God, not magic.â In fact, Rowling initially was afraid that if people were aware of her Christian faith, she would give away too much of whatâs coming in the series. âIf I talk too freely about that,â she told a Canadian reporter, âI think the intelligent reader â whether ten [years old] or sixty â will be able to guess what is coming in the booksâ (Michael Nelson, âFantasia: The Gospel According to C.S. Lewisâ, The American Prospect, vol. 13, no. 4, February 25, 2002)
I was shocked when I read that. It was one thing for Granger and others to see Christian themes in the Harry Potter novels but an actual statement by JKR herself? That was amazing. I had to read the whole article by Michael Nelson to see what he was getting at. I also needed the full quotation if there was one. A cursory look at the article off the American Prospectâs website revealed that I would have to do some digging and detective work. I had to find out the name of the Canadian reporter, the publication, and the actual article. Checking the sources in my case was instinctual since I was a Journalism student at the time. Eventually I found out that that quote was from an article by Max Wyman of the Vancouver Sun on October 26, 2000:
âYes, I am,â she says. âWhich seems to offend the religious right far worse than if I said I thought there was no God. Every time Iâve been asked if I believe in God, Iâve said yes, because I do, but no one ever really has gone any more deeply into it than that, and I have to say that does suit me, because if I talk too freely about that I think the intelligent reader, whether 10 or 60, will be able to guess whatâs coming in the books.â
I scoured the computers at Queens College (located in Flushing, NY) hoping to find a full text article on Lexis-Nexis but to no avail. I even visited the Vancouver Sun website and I was prepared to pay for a photocopy of the original article. It was not long before Quick Quote Quill (now Accio Quotes) of Harry Potter Lexicon, posted the article in its entirety in their online archive.

Now JKRâs famous (at least to those who see Christian virtue in the novels) statement was in response to a simple question. âIs she a Christian?â She answered in the affirmative and took it a step further by saying that she has not elaborated on her faith because it will reveal key plotlines in the later novels. Richard Abanes totally disregarded this bit of evidence in his discussions with Travis Prinzi of Sword of Gryffindor by saying that JKR âhas never defined Godâ and the âterm Christian has been so overused that is some senses it has become almost meaningless without clarificationâ. Abanes wants a bonafide confession and that is simply not fair. Whenever someone asks me if I am a Christian, I simply answer yes and that would be the end of discussion. We are on a slippery slope if we require everyone who claims to be a Christian to prove they are Christians. We should take JKR at face value and simply believe her. Only God knows for sure and I might add, that goes for any Christian.

Numerous times we see articles that mention the fact that she is a member of the Church of Scotland and a Presbyterian to boot. In a Washington Post article (âCharmed, Iâm Sure,â October 20, 1999), we learn that JKR belonged to a congregation at Edinburgh and even had her daughter, Jessica christened there. An elderly woman named Susan, who attended the same church would watch Jessica while JKR worked on Harry Potter and the Philosopherâs Stone. This is quite possibly the same Susan whom in Goblet of Fire, JKR devotes a portion of the bookâs dedication to, ââ¦and to Susan Sladden, who helped Harry get out of his cupboardâ. In an earlier article Joanna Carey writes that during her interview with JKR, âshe speaks of some of her beliefs and inspirations â including her involvement with the Church of Scotland⦠(âWho hasnât met Harry?â Guardian Unlimited, February 16, 1999). Notice how the article does not elaborate further on these beliefs as if the reporter either did not deem them important for the subject matter of the article or maybe it was the wishes of a woman protecting her storyline.

Hesitation and carefully worded responses are the norm with JKR, especially in regards to her faith. Take for instance her interview with Lev Grossman. Grossman goes out of his way to present JKR as a rebel and one who is at odds with C.S. Lewis. This flies in the face of everything she said about Lewis before, namely that he is a genius and that she cannot stay in the same room with a Narnia book without reading it. But take a close look at what Grossman wrote in his article, âInterestingly, although Rowling is a member of the Church of Scotland, the books are free of references to God. On this point, Rowling is cagey. âUm. I donât think theyâre that secular,â she says, choosing her words slowly. âBut, obviously, Dumbledore is not Jesusâ (Time Magazine, July 17, 2005). Another example, and more compelling I might add, is her interview with Evan Solomon:
ES: When you talk about dealing with death and loss in the books, does this come out of your own - youâve had loss with the loss of your mother - did it come out of a personal spirituality? I mean, are you are religious person? Does your spirituality come from a certain place?
JKR: I do believe in God. That seems to offend the South Carolinians more than almost anything else. I think they would find itâ¦well that is my limited experience, that they have more of a problem with me believing in God than they would have if I was an unrepentant atheist.
ES: You do believe in God.
JKR: Yeah. Yeah.
ES: In magic andâ¦
JKR: Magic in the sense in which it happens in my books, no, I donât believe. I donât believe in that. No. No. This is so frustrating. Again, there is so much I would like to say, and come back when Iâve written book seven. But then maybe you wonât need to even say it âcause youâll have found it out anyway. Youâll have read it (CBCNewsWorld: Hot Type, July 13, 2000).
This above quote is in the same category as the famous Vancouver Sun quote. The context for JKRâs frustration is the âSouth Carolinians,â who were the first to protest the reading of Harry Potter in the school classrooms due to the supposed âviolent and occult themesâ in them (Farber, Celia. âHarry Potterâs Toughest Foe,â Sunday Herald (Glasgow), October 17, 1999). This frustration is deeply rooted in being misunderstood and having to say time and time again that she does not believe in magic, real or imagined. Constantly JKR is being asked if she believes in God and to reiterate on her beliefs and this is unsettling to a person protecting her storyline while trying to defend them at the same time. JKRâs response is yes, I believe in God but wait till book seven to learn more. JKR is saying that she wants to say more after book seven comes out but then again maybe book seven will do the talking for her. Amazing, indeed. It is worth noting that when asked afterwards if she was a churchgoer, JKR replied nodding, âMmm hmm. Well I go more than to weddings and christenings. Yes, I doâ.

JKR spent much of her childhood living at Tutshill, a small village near Chepstow in the Gwent county of Wales, finding residence with her family in a church cottage near St. Lukeâs Church and the Church of England Primary School of Tutshill. This does not prove that she is a Christian but it does show that she grew up around a Christian environment. I mentioned elsewhere that one of the sources of inspiration for the interesting names of her characters was from âmedieval saintsâ. Mind you, these are Christian saints she is referring to. And her favorite painting? âPerhaps my favorite painting is Caravaggioâs Supper at Emmaus when Jesus reveals himself to the disciples having risen from the dead. I love it. Jesus looks very likeable â soft and rounded â and the painting captures the exact moment when the disciples realize who this man is, blessing their breadâ (Lindsay Fraser, Conversations with J.K. Rowling, Scholastic, 2001, pg. 30-31). Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggioâs painting is based on Luke 24.13-35 but more specifically verses 30 and 31, âWhen he was at table with them, he took the bread and blessed and broke it and gave it to them. And their eyes were opened, and they recognized him. And he vanished from their sightâ.

This article sought to show through JKRâs statements that she is in fact a Christian. It is often the case that people question whether she is one and going so far as seeking bonafide creedal statements of beliefs and more from her. And this is simply not fair to JKR. The Scriptures tell us that we will know them by their fruits. Now what are JKRâs fruits? Well she has said many times that she is not a witch nor does she desire to be one. JKR has been blessed with riches through the sales of her novels and as a result she has donated great amounts of money supporting multiple sclerosis and cancer research, helping one parent families, and promoting childrenâs literature. She is very much philanthropic and is following the Christian principles of giving that Christ laid down for us. We will do well to reserve any judgment until the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows comes upon us. Perhaps the final novel will address and put to rest peopleâs fears of JKRâs use of magic in the novels and reveal her true intentions and beliefs; that of faith reflected in a Christian worldview.
Filed under: Hogwarts School of Theology, J.K. Rowling by Travis Prinzi


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ich bräuchte erst mal ne bersetzung damit ich verstehe was du sagen willst breites Grinsen sie ist christin JA UND??? Nachdenken
das weis jeder und es ist fast normal in der westlichen welt, entweder christ oder atheist oder jude...was ist daran aussergewöhnlich???

meinst du es beeinflusst sie in ihren büchern????? Nachdenken

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